Welcome to Who’s Out There? — a Chris Jordan Media production.
Season 3: The Next Mutation.
This is the place where ancient faith collides with modern consciousness… where long-held paradigms bend, shift, and sometimes break entirely.
In this season, we sit down with scholars, thinkers, and boundary-walking believers who are reshaping what the Christian God Agenda looks like in a world that refuses to stand still. These are voices who’ve crossed paradigms—sometimes by choice, sometimes by crisis—and emerged with new ways of understanding God, spirit, self, and purpose.
Here, faith is no longer something inherited… It’s something forged.
It’s personal.
It’s introspective.
It’s lived.
So if you’re ready to explore a world where your wellbeing, your growth, your goodness, and your own becoming form the core of your spirituality—then you’re in the right place.
Because the future of faith isn’t out there somewhere…
It’s already inside you.
This is The Next Mutation.
“Who’s Out There? The Next Mutation” Episode 1: Building the Basis for Biblical Bias
Tim Victor is a South African theologian, author, and spiritual provocateur known for his work with postmodern spiritual seekers and his advocacy for a reimagined approach to church and spirituality. He is the founder of Urban Mystic, a movement and platform dedicated to cultivating a lifestyle of relational spirituality centered on the practice of the Presence of God.
Visit his podcast series “The Urban Mystic.”
https://urbanmystic.co.za/
Follow Tim on Instagram at Follow Tim on Instagram at https://www.instagram.com/urbanmysticpodcast/
In this episode, we begin the conversation around why there is a global, societal movement that is shifting its focus away from the Bible as a dependable source of information, and on how to curate a relationship with God.
“Who’s Out There? The Next Mutation” Episode 2: A Wolf in Sheep’s Clothing
In this episode, it’s simple. Who is really propagating false prophecy?
“Who’s Out There? The Next Mutation” Episode 3: The Darkest Plight
In this episode, we discuss the road less travelled as a new era believer.
“Who’s Out There? The Next Mutation” Episode 4: Praxis Makes Perfect
Tim Victor is a South African theologian, author, and spiritual provocateur known for his work with postmodern spiritual seekers and his advocacy for a reimagined approach to church and spirituality. He is the founder of Urban Mystic, a movement and platform dedicated to cultivating a lifestyle of relational spirituality centered on the practice of the Presence of God.
Visit his podcast series “The Urban Mystic.”
https://urbanmystic.co.za/
Follow Tim on Instagram at https://www.instagram.com/theurbanandthemystic/
In this episode, I close up with Tim with the foundation of how one would move ahead in the practice of his community’s belief system.
Who’s Out There? The Next Mutation – Episode 5 “Stripping Away the Spiritual Semantics”
My guest is theologian, researcher, and wellness thinker Prof. Gerhard Bothma – a man who has spent decades inside the structures of organised religion…
and now stands at the threshold, questioning those same structures with honesty, integrity, and courage.
He’s written on hope and depression, on preaching, on the liturgical year, and on Revelation.
He has journeyed through faith, out of faith, and into a space he describes not as rejection —
But as reconstruction.
In a world obsessed with certainty, Prof. Bothma brings something rare:
the freedom to explore doubt.
In this episode, Gerhard breaks down the whys as to how divine inclusivity is brought about by the human need to fill an empty space.
Follow Gerhard on Facebook at https://web.facebook.com/gerhard.bothma.3
Who’s Out There? The Next Mutation – Episode 6 “Deliberating Dogma”
In this episode, Gerhard breaks down further why the books in the Bible are more like fictional stories, and factional bias, than a divinitive word.
Who’s Out There? The Next Mutation – Episode 7 “Read The Fine Print”
In this episode, Gerhard takes academic note of testimonial discrepancies that spread the Good News.
Who’s Out There? The Next Mutation – Episode 8 “Cryptic Cataclysm”
In this episode, I ask the question, “Could the Bible possibly be predominantly purely symbolic?”
Follow Gerhard on Facebook at https://web.facebook.com/gerhard.bothma.3
